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Identify7 Z8 [  I8 ]: R7 D! K  z; L
柯林斯高级英语学习词典第5版      
) y7 c" r+ x9 O6 V+ m0 I/ O7 ^ ♦♦ iden|ti|fy /aɪd'entɪfaɪ/ (identifies identifying identified)
2 C" D  M- G/ M3 X  o8 i* I! F- W1 [VERB] V n
9 Q9 r) r' v; x: H3 sIf you can identify someone or something, you are able to recognize them or distinguish them from others.& }2 W) |( _# ?' N
There are a number of distinguishing characteristics by which you can identify a Hollywood epic...
1 n( _" E0 `" d; O9 T/ d- M& @2 [VERB] V n, V n as n/-ing
4 d3 J! `. e7 y4 C' VIf you identify someone or something, you name them or say who or what they are.3 [" D# f4 ]* u( Y; @
Police have already identified around 10 murder suspects...& X* O( x3 U- s; z! E2 d) c3 l4 l( q
The reporters identified one of the six Americans as an Army Specialist...7 I* C$ h" @7 F, s
= name
) u  Z  F/ w8 A6 t7 v1 M$ o3 H3 G4 g3 [VERB] V n
6 c% f0 N; T% S2 e; tIf you identify something, you discover or notice its existence.
9 Z/ b: d" }# ], g! {4 JScientists claim to have identified natural substances with cancer-combating properties...- C2 S0 t& @- m8 }& u0 W
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4 [VERB] V n, V n as -ing/n( _% [# E$ o) c! L' A! j! R
If a particular thing identifies someone or something, it makes them easy to recognize, by making them different in some way.; f+ Q$ M8 n" B& O4 B' E& j8 f
She wore a little nurse's hat on her head to identify her...
) C+ W6 H* k9 j6 SHis boots and purple beret identify him as commanding the Scottish Paratroops.
5 h# X4 g6 q) u+ t= distinguish
+ h  s  j7 p0 @2 V) q7 l) @5 [VERB] V with n) g. [/ ?6 h1 |% m$ P
If you identify with someone or something, you feel that you understand them or their feelings and ideas.* W9 i# q2 _% s) `
She would only play a role if she could identify with the character...
9 P( t- R& |  x- q' E1 X6 [VERB] V n with n, V pron-refl with n
0 q1 y1 i. L# S/ SIf you identify one person or thing with another, you think that they are closely associated or involved in some way.
  J# \7 n: x$ K: W# P' x6 |She hates playing the sweet, passive women that audiences identify her with...7 I1 X% D, Y$ p& R$ g- |! x& O8 }
The candidates all want to identify themselves with reform.
' O, C+ x  C2 N= associate  梦巴蒂汽车坐垫,制冷按摩好   尚朗汽车美容 6大服务项目淘金   cnBeta 中文业界资讯站
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朗文当代英语词典
4 \8 J. ?- [  F- |3 j/ B2 }identify  
* U6 Y2 G1 N9 J. q$ S/ R) [i·den·ti·fy
3 @8 m8 \# s. |& [3 GW1 /aɪˈdentɪfaɪ/ v past tense and past participle identified present participle identifying third person singular identifies [T]
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& p; m0 Q1 j2 G; G( N8 s) T7 S[Date: 1600-1700; Language: Late Latin; Origin: identificare, from Latin idem; IDENTITY]
; {0 e9 b- ^, Kto recognize and correctly name someone or something
% h4 N, H( r# N$ Q9 \- _% K9 k He was too far away to be able to identify faces.' H$ }8 s9 q; c! ]& ]
 The police took fingerprints and identified the body .7 J4 V' n( A# E4 u
identify sb/sth as sb/sth: s$ d( w8 ~, i' G* h
 Eye witnesses identified the gunman as an army sergeant.5 G& |/ g+ t5 w$ m1 `. u
 The aircraft were identified as American.
2 E5 W+ z% X: B* [  i+ Yto recognize something or discover exactly what it is, what its nature or origin is etc) _" [# C) z/ Y  m
 Scientists have identified the gene that causes abnormal growth.
' {7 s9 _3 b- B$ T0 F They identified a number of problem areas.
9 }/ K' t; [' A% ^' D( wif a particular thing identifies someone or something, it makes them easy to recognize
0 n; P# I! B3 a5 F$ Pidentify sb as sb
; G! G) z4 I, y8 D His accent identified him as a Frenchman.
) b# Y6 `  K3 L7 r; R: o, M8 zidentify with phr v
4 }$ ^  O3 j0 M identify with sb/sth) W' \* k# N% c4 c1 |+ w! {; y
to feel sympathy with someone or be able to share their feelings
% l9 R8 T1 h9 U- ^0 J# B0 g) j Humans can easily identify with the emotional expressions of chimpanzees.
' D$ ~) k$ ^; f& G He identified with our distress and despair.
  J" \& n/ F) _2 y3 @ identify sb with sth: r  p% V+ q4 }! e6 U
to think that someone is very closely related to or involved with something such as a political group
, D/ s0 ?: Y/ R* ~, Q/ r& T She has always been identified with the radical left.- f) e. h6 E2 `* s/ j
identify sth with sb/sth) c# t: G" R5 M$ R9 ~- f
to think that something is the same as, or closely related to, something else  `5 o8 r  ^5 T& n& m3 Y  p( i
 the attempt to identify crime with poverty and social problems
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+ G- |5 a/ L# n, }& ]! i identify  
. k4 W6 l. c  R6 B1 C% o1 N verb (identifies, identifying, identified, identified)
7 S* k: n2 U' u* s, Z8 J (also informal ID) [VN] ~ sb/sth (as sb/sth) to recognize sb/sth and be able to say who or what they are: The bodies were identified as those of two suspected drug dealers. ◆ She was able to identify her attacker. ◆ Passengers were asked to identify their own suitcases before they were put on the plane. ◆ Many of those arrested refused to identify themselves (= would not say who they were). ◆ First of all we must identify the problem areas.
  v: q9 B( J8 Y& q9 n+ \ to find or discover sb/sth: [VN] Scientists have identified a link between diet and cancer. ◆ As yet they have not identified a buyer for the company. ◆ [V wh-] They are trying to identify what is wrong with the present system.
% A. S3 w; }' ?3 r [VN] ~ sb/sth (as sb/sth) to make it possible to recognize who or what sb/sth is: In many cases, the clothes people wear identify them as belonging to a particular social class.& A& X7 ?+ `3 r/ h1 M/ ^; ?
Phrasal Verbs: identify with sb to feel that you can understand and share the feelings of sb else: I didn't enjoy the book because I couldn't identify with any of the main characters./ T- ?4 F1 J! t1 L
identify sb with sth to consider sb to be sth: He was not the 'tough guy' the public identified him with.: R4 H/ I+ k3 v- w: _" q
identify sth with sth to consider sth to be the same as sth else
( q. H" m% R  t8 m6 JSynonym: EQUATE
# o/ A% C) f, q% C  O% SYou should not identify wealth with happiness.( g9 [+ `9 F( L' h) m% G
be identified with sb/sth, a7 h  h8 w  @6 R
identify yourself with sb/sth to support sb/sth; to be closely connected with sb/sth: The Church became increasingly identified with opposition to the regime.: o& W1 I* x. {1 ]9 z( e9 S3 x
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9 }9 \; ]0 r# K$ E4 c5 R, F identify  " O; F1 I& P1 H3 l' K; X
/ aɪˈdentɪfaɪ; aɪˋdɛntəˏfaɪ/ v (pt, pp -fied)
; `5 @+ \& j1 W+ w# Q( S [Tn, Cn.n/a] ~ sb/sth as sb/sth show, prove, etc who or what sb/sth is; recognize sb/sth (as being the specified person or thing) 确认﹑ 证明某人[某事物]; 鉴别出(系某人或某物): Can you identify your umbrella among this lot? 你能在这些伞中认出你自己的那一把吗? * She identified the man as her attacker. 她认出那个男人就是袭击过她的人. % ~: r+ x6 i3 b* [1 p/ m
[Tn.pr] ~ sth with sth consider sth to be identical with sth; equate two things 认为某事物与另事物等同: One cannot identify happiness with wealth. 幸福和财富不能混为一谈.
6 M2 x, X7 d2 f0 Y3 J4 p/ r (phr v) identify (oneself) with sb/sth give support to sb/sth; be associated with sb/sth 支持某人[某事物]; 与某人[某事物]有关联: He refused to identify himself/become identified with the new political party. 他拒绝与那个新政党来往. identify with sb regard oneself as sharing the characteristics or fortunes of sb; take sb as a model 与某人认同; 以某人为模式: I found it hard to identify with any of the characters in the film. 我对这部影片里的任何角色都难以认同.
& o: y5 J' f( }' e. _' p0 Z" t8 e> identification / aɪˏdentɪfɪˈkeɪʃn; aɪˏdɛntəfəˋkeʃən/ n [U] ) e; Z& ^# z$ @$ }7 r
1 (process of) identifying or being identified 验明; 鉴别: The identification of the accident victims took some time. 验明事故遇难者身分的工作费了不少时间.
6 ?7 `. O1 @; X* |2 ?% Q2 (abbr 缩写 ID) means of proving who one is; official papers that do this 身分证明; 身分证明书: Can I see some identification, please? 请给我看看你的身分证件行吗? i,dentifi`cation parade number of people, including one suspected of a crime, arranged in a row for viewing by witnesses who may be able to identify the suspect 供辨认嫌疑犯的一排人(其一为嫌疑犯, 供目击者辨认).) M* \. X5 m/ X0 e
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7、如果你研读ISO9001标准英文原版,可以知道7.5.3条款第一段和第二段均为“shall identify”,此处identify均作为及物动词使用,词义为“vt. 识别”,并无“对……进行标识”的意思;
2 R$ H: c: w  _( o% i4 K) _这是对的。看来学ISO标准还得学好英文
2 z  y' |: p: Q5 f只有第三段为名词“identification”,做‘标识’解。4 c) s1 G5 \* U0 c2 Q
这也不对,还是“识别”的意义,只是从动词变成了名词,意思不变9 C# D) X. }6 n- T, }; F
举个例子,身份证为identification card,意思为身份识别卡,与标识无关
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emeipengxu 发表于 2013-7-19 23:25& z1 J$ n, b& `6 M. z- P( ?
7、如果你研读ISO9001标准英文原版,可以知道7.5.3条款第一段和第二段均为“shall identify”,此处identif ...
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有些词语在大陆有基本固定或约定俗成的译法
8 f& p) |3 p, h4 G0 z' Z如 unique identification 唯一性标识,identification card (身份证、身份辨识卡,标识卡片)
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在所有的中文翻译中,台湾对ISO9001:2008的中文翻译以其严谨性在世界上得到了更广泛的认可,所以,来看看台湾是怎么翻译的(台湾标准叫 CNS12681 Z 4034 品质管理系统 要求):
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rml 发表于 2013-7-21 09:57
: u) S$ Z( N0 X' X; E9 x6 {/ }其实,台版没大陆版严谨。
% d# R5 P) l2 Y7 c* T+ {! h, L! B就本主题而言,台版解决了一个问题——“识别”和“标识”都统一于“识别”。这 ...
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曾经在台资公司工作过数年,因此对繁体字和台湾人的表达方式小有理解。* H6 N7 l7 Q4 Z' _( h6 _
和RML老师的看法不同,与大陆的表达方式相比,我认为台湾的表述确实更言简意赅,更严谨。您说第二段翻译得非常艰涩,也许是因为平时没有接触过台湾的表达,但是对本人来说,这句非常通俗易懂。* Y: j0 X4 R, S9 `" _
台湾的文字、表达习惯和大陆的已经有所不同,所以,语法体系能否直接用大陆的套到台湾的上面,要画个问号的。% i/ ?0 U/ O% `# s; V
一个链接,供参考。http://www.cait.cn/ISO9000/biaoz ... 0090731_19535.shtml- h4 k9 b9 S; Y" D+ u/ Q0 g7 ]
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blueboat 发表于 2013-7-21 07:582 l3 V9 N3 X/ C& v2 _+ h; m) q
在所有的中文翻译中,台湾对ISO9001:2008的中文翻译以其严谨性在世界上得到了更广泛的认可,所以,来看看台 ...

# \! N. U; F. \$ E某剩女在一次相亲上拐弯抹角地打听男方家底:“你最经常用的交通工具是什么?”4 x1 q6 H$ X6 I3 g
男方恰逢感冒,回答:“飞机…啊嚏…动车。”7 J0 {3 H) U/ w
女方觉得男方属于高档商务白领,嫁之。9 B' ]4 S, q& p. I6 z  c
婚后却发现男方是个民工,骑一辆破自行车上下班。% q. w# m/ [6 h/ ~; g
女怒道:“当初你居然骗我!”
* S% t9 J9 Y7 u男茫然答道:“没骗你啊,我说的就是非机动车。”
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blueboat 发表于 2013-7-21 07:582 Y9 Q8 _8 h# @5 J- R
在所有的中文翻译中,台湾对ISO9001:2008的中文翻译以其严谨性在世界上得到了更广泛的认可,所以,来看看台 ...
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在大陆,如果你说监视和测量设备应“具有识别”,我们会认为你没把话讲完整,但台湾人就是这么讲的……5 }: R  M$ f& @8 C+ ]
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! P% e9 v+ R; d在大陆,如果你说监视和测量设备应“具有识别”,我们会认为你没把话讲完整,但台湾人就是这么讲的……$ T2 ?: I6 G/ X9 c4 h
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% j2 H" v7 ?2 C& V/ s9 E# M大陆和台湾已经存两套语法体系,不同的东西,不好放一起对比。  v" x1 D: [5 O( t0 D/ k
台湾的表达方式在大陆的语法看起来可能存在语法错误,但是这仅仅是使用大陆的语法作为标准进行判断。) p+ Z9 Z  Q) |+ t7 h
相比较大陆的书面表达方式,台湾的表达方式的确严谨,说不上所以然,也许只是因为在台资公司工作数年,被台湾的表达方式浸淫了吧。但,毕竟中华传统文化保存最好的地方就是在台湾,本人的感觉可能是文化归属感导致的吧。2 |5 P+ U8 U  l; `1 z- m
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rml 发表于 2013-7-22 08:01
( I# t6 v4 s2 x台湾中文这么写的。台湾汉语却不一定是这么讲的。这种文白夹杂的语言中,语文分离是必然的。
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台湾汉语是进退均可,进可纯白话,退可用文言,大陆嘛,纯白的了。$ D0 h" O& n3 m# L! E
昨天看到老大庆贺小马哥的贺电,和我们日常表达已是相差甚多,看来真正官方的、正统的,还是文言。
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rml 发表于 2013-7-22 10:25
8 h8 y! [& R1 p  b- _“进退均可”实际上就是两不象。
6 n# J- E0 c& C% Z2 z大陆的做法,也没废止旧的。简体字只在正规场合被要求。而从来没有对书 ...
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同意老师的,这个课题实在太大,而且尤其对我来说,已经远超我的知识范围了~~& R: p4 j9 c* k8 N
但我还是认为正统文化在台湾,基于两点判断:; H6 b7 a0 P# I# Z
1. 大陆经历过文化断层,而台湾没有;( T) g% x4 Q: Y2 u) k& a/ z3 X
2. 文化传承体——士绅阶层,在49年都去台湾了,而没去的,能活下来的也没几个了...
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说实话,我比较看好4,质量2008版的要求好像也偏重这一点,可是我还是选择了3,我不知道有什么方法比标识更简单科学,让人更好做到目视化管理。可能本人才疏学浅,需高手指点。。。
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